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Stone bar tops in Friern Barnet

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Friern Barnet kitchens

The buildings and streets around Friern Barnet

Victorian and Edwardian terrace1930s semigated conversion of the former hospital

What makes stone bar top work in Friern Barnet worth thinking about properly is that the same worktop behaves very differently depending on what it is being fitted around. Ordinary terraces and semis with rear kitchens, plus a distinctive body of apartments converted from the old asylum buildings where kitchens sit inside listed shells with huge ceiling heights, deep reveals and windows that cannot be touched. Those conversions need runs planned around fixed structure rather than around cabinetry. Bring us the problem rather than the diagnosis. Working out what you have got is the first thing we do.

An under-stairs cupboard eats one end of most of these kitchens, and the run stops at a door that has to keep opening. What carries a bar top here is rarely a kitchen carcass, so the framing underneath gets looked at before anything is measured across the top of it. Corbels are a decision about how the piece looks from a seat.

Rear rooms of this date have a wide sash or a pair of garden doors, so a good deal of the wall the run wants is glass. A bar in a house of this age is usually either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the cellar is the harder of the two because the headroom fixes the counter height before anybody else gets a say. Two tiers where a single piece will not reach.

On this patch the buildings are Victorian and Edwardian terrace, 1930s semi and gated conversion of the former hospital. They were built to different tolerances, and the stone has to absorb that.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Barnet
Postcodes
N11
Covered on
our north London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Friern Barnet is its own job

Our survey in Friern Barnet exists to answer how the stone gets to the room and what it has to be levelled against. The gated conversion estate has security barriers, a one-way internal road and controlled parking, so deliveries must be pre-registered; the surrounding streets are ordinary permit-controlled suburbia with some driveways. In the listed conversions the walls are solid and thick with deep window reveals, so returns into the reveal have to be templated individually and cannot be assumed square. The workshop cuts to the template, not to the kitchen designer's drawing, because only one of those was taken in the room.

The work

What bar tops involves

The work is quoted as its own item rather than as extra worktop metreage, because a bar carries a load a kitchen run never sees and the support beneath it is a real cost. Cut-outs for a bar sink, a drip tray or a socket through the surface are machined before anything leaves the workshop, so nothing is cut into a finished counter in the room. You end up with a surface chosen for what gets put down on it, so a wet glass standing all evening and a slice of lemon are not the things that spoil it.

Fitting a bar runs in three stages. The frame is checked and packed level, the support for the projection goes in, and only then does any stone come off the van. Corbels are set out to the stool positions so that nobody has one arriving between their knees, and they are fixed to structure rather than to a lining board. The hall and the turn at the stairs cap how long a single piece can be, which is why a long counter here arrives as two pieces with a planned break. Frame checked, steel in, stone down.

Worktop join finished flush against a wall
Corners and joinsSee the options

The money

What it costs in Friern Barnet

Material choice moves the figure less than the detail does, and on a bar the detail means the apron, the radius and whatever sits under the front edge. In a galley the runs are short and the cut-outs are close together, so the fixed operations carry more of the total than the stone does. For a rough sense of the material, £110 to £550 per square metre supply only is the honest span. Treat it as one line of a quote that will carry several more. Nothing about the support is folded into the stone rate.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

The carry, and what it rules out

A short lunchtime window of control exists to keep commuters off the street, and it still catches a trade van standing there for an hour. Where the clock is running the frame is levelled and the steel is in before the top ever leaves the tail lift. Trestles outside beat balancing a top on a half-built frame.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

Friern Barnet in the housing figures

Across Friern Barnet, new build has barely touched the stock, so we are fitting into existing kitchens rather than empty shells. A seating projection drawn on a developer plan is not one anybody has costed steel for, and template is where the two meet. The nose is supported for what leans on it, not for what stands on it.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

What Friern Barnet asks for

The building stock on this patch tells us nothing useful about this service, because this service is not driven by it. It is driven by worktop templating, worktop replacement and worktop installation on the domestic side. The method does not change.

Access

Getting stone into a Friern Barnet kitchen

The gated conversion estate has security barriers, a one-way internal road and controlled parking, so deliveries must be pre-registered; the surrounding streets are ordinary permit-controlled suburbia with some driveways.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

north London patch

Friern Barnet is covered on our north London run, along with the rest of Barnet.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Friern Barnet

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Do your own fitters come out to Friern Barnet?

Yes. Friern Barnet is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are N11. It is worked on our north London run, along with the rest of Barnet. Where the nearest legal space is a couple of streets back, the walk with each piece becomes the job, and the crew is sized for walking rather than wheeling. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. The offcut from a bar sink leaves in the van. The template happens in your kitchen and so does the fit, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

Is there anything about Friern Barnet buildings that catches bar tops out?

Internal walls are lath on timber studs while the flank walls are brick, so two walls in the same kitchen take a fixing completely differently. A bar in one of these houses is either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the two behave differently. Scribed at the back and free at the front. Sill height gets settled with the template on site, because it is one of the few dimensions nobody has measured before we arrive. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. Every obstruction under the top is a seating decision too.

What do you check about the route into a Friern Barnet property?

Estate roads are often too tight for a long-wheelbase van to turn, so the carry starts a good deal further from the door than a map suggests. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. The nose is the corner that gets caught, so it travels padded. Applying for a suspension means naming a length of kerb and a date, and moving the date generally means applying for it again. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. A suspension is booked for the fitting day, not the delivery hour.

Do you get much bar tops work in Friern Barnet?

Not really, and claiming otherwise would cost nothing and mean nothing. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop templating, worktop replacement and worktop installation. It reflects the local housing rather than any difference in the work. It is quoted, cut and fitted here the same way it is anywhere else on the patch. A converted flat is measured off the original house, so no two units in the same building have quite the same kitchen run. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. What was drawn and what was built are compared at template. Kitchens go in near the end of a conversion, behind the plastering and the flooring, by which point the programme has already absorbed whatever slipped earlier. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. A bar is templated after the joinery has stopped moving.

Why do two Friern Barnet kitchens the same size price differently?

A doorway partway along one wall breaks that side into two separate pieces, and two short pieces cost more between them than the single long one they replace. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. One level or two, and it is decided early. Supply-only material is £110 to £550 per square metre, and templating, fabrication and fitting are quoted separately rather than rolled in.

What has to be finished before you can template?

A window board sitting below finished worktop height leaves two choices, drop the top under it or notch the stone around it, and both cost more than a straight run. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. The riser is boxed to a line the stone can follow. Send the length you want, the number of stools, and photographs walking from the pavement through to the room, including the cellar stair if the bar is going down there. Flats bought out of managed stock keep the original kitchen dimensions long after the ownership changed, so the layout says very little about who is paying for the work. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. What stays with the building is built to stay.

Do you cut drainer grooves on Friern Barnet kitchens?

The bowl position has to be settled before templating, since the grooves are set out from it. Grooves are machined in the workshop at the same time as the bowl cut-out, because they cannot be done well in a kitchen. Where there is no room for a separate drainer, grooves are usually what gets specified instead. Nothing in a house of this age is square, and the kitchen is usually the part that has been altered most often. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. A home bar is joinery first and stone second.

What if the units in a Friern Barnet kitchen have moved since they went in?

Where a run meets an appliance, level decides whether that appliance door still clears the stone above it. If the carcasses are corrected, the template is taken again, since a drawing off units that then moved is worthless. Units have to be fixed down as well as levelled. A loose carcass moves under stone. A cill projecting forward of the plaster line pushes the back edge out, and the units then stand off the wall by that amount for the whole length. Where the nose has to be carried past something fixed the support moves rather than the stone, since a corbel landing in the knee space is worse than no corbel at all. Steel spans what a carcass cannot.

What happens if a piece will not go up the stairs?

The alternative to a join is a shorter run, which is usually the wrong thing to trade away. Splitting a run costs a join, and that is the price of getting stone into the room at all. An external stair, a side return or a rear garden counts as carry and is measured the same way. Sign-in at the gate, a permit on the dash and a named contact are usually wanted before anything comes off the van. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. Steel for the overhang is carried in and fixed before the stone.

Can a Friern Barnet worktop be done in one piece?

An island often runs in one piece where a wall run cannot. A join cannot cross a cut-out, so a sink mid-run takes away the position you would have used. There are only ever a few legal positions, and the one taken is furthest from the light. Handles on opposing runs meet in the middle of the aisle, so a deep edge profile specified on both sides takes width out of the standing space twice over. Where the counter runs flush with the working surface instead of standing above it the whole thing becomes one plane, which looks better and doubles the unsupported span. A breakfast counter and a trade bar are not the same brief.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

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Great service. Super quick and easy communication. I love my new worktop 🥹🥹

Sara Arghir

Google review

Professional, polite and friendly service. Very pleased with finished product.

costas andrews

Google review

I used Karem’s services 5 years ago for purchasing and fitting the quartz worktop in my then brand new kitchen. The price was reasonable and the service reliable and spot on, no delays in fitting, misunderstanding or excuses. I recommended him to a friend, who also used his services and they were happy too! If I need to order new kitchen work top again, I would definitely use him again. Thanks Karem!

shoshencence

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Friern Barnet, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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