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Stone bar tops in Angel

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Angel kitchens

The buildings and streets around Angel

Georgian terraceearly Victorian terracewarehouse conversionnew-build apartment

Nothing about stone bar top work in Angel is decided by us alone, since the units, the walls and the way you get through the door all get a say. A dense mix of period flats and newer apartments, where period conversions put the kitchen in a rear room or a former closet wing on a 2.4-3m run, while converted warehouses and newer blocks give open-plan runs with an island. Whole-house Georgian jobs put the kitchen at lower ground with garden access and a long single wall. If you would rather someone just came and looked, that is the design and quotation visit, and it costs nothing in Angel or anywhere else.

Sash windows sit low in the rear wall, and the sill often lands below the height a worktop wants to run past. None of that stops a bar being fitted level, but it does mean the top is set to a datum of its own and packed off the frame rather than followed down to the floor. Everything under the nose is agreed before a slab is chosen.

Rooms are tall with deep window reveals, and a run finishing into a reveal is templated to it rather than assumed square. The floor is suspended timber, so the frame is fixed back to a wall as well as bearing down on the boards, or the whole thing shifts when somebody leans on the nose. A breakfast counter on an end is still an overhang problem.

On these streets the housing is Georgian terrace, early Victorian terrace, warehouse conversion and new-build apartment. None of them is harder than the others; they are awkward in different ways.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Islington
Postcodes
N1, EC1
Covered on
our north London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Angel is its own job

Having worked in Angel regularly, we already know what to check before a template is booked and a slab is ordered. Upper Street is a red route with bus lanes, City Road and Pentonville Road are red routes on the southern edge, and the side streets are controlled Monday to Friday with some seven-day bays near the Green. Several surrounding streets sit inside camera-enforced traffic filters, so the route in for a van is not the route a satnav gives you. Check the filtered-street layout before fit day, because a wrong turn through a camera gate costs more than the delivery and the legal approach usually adds a long carry. Whatever the building does to a straight line, it is measured on the template and drawn before anything is cut.

The work

What bar tops involves

A stone bar top covers the surface and what carries it: the top itself, the edge profile on every face that shows, and the steel or corbels holding the projection up. Cut-outs for a bar sink, a drip tray or a socket through the surface are machined before anything leaves the workshop, so nothing is cut into a finished counter in the room. You end up with a surface chosen for what gets put down on it, so a wet glass standing all evening and a slice of lemon are not the things that spoil it.

A bar is drawn outward from the seat, because where somebody sits fixes the height, the knee room and how far the front edge has to reach. The front edge is profiled and polished on every exposed face, the underside included, because that face sits at eye level for anybody sitting down at it. The back is scribed to whatever the plaster does, and the front is set out from a line of its own. The projection is engineered, not hoped for.

Polished stone edge profile close up
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The money

What it costs in Angel

A bar top is priced from what holds it up as much as from the stone, because the steel, the corbels and the time spent fixing them are real lines rather than an allowance. Two facing runs mean two sets of edges and two scribes in a small span, which is why a compact galley rarely prices as cheaply as its area suggests. Take £110 to £550 per square metre as a floor to reason from rather than a quote, since it covers material alone and every operation is added to it as a named line. Frame, support and top, each priced as itself.

period detached houses and villas

Angel in the housing figures

Locally almost nothing dates from between the wars, which leaves the stock either older or newer and rarely in between. Rooms of that vintage are small, so the bar replaces a table rather than joining one, and the stool count comes off the floor space. A seat never sits above a seam.

period detached houses and villas

What Angel asks for

Studio and one-bed conversions put the whole kitchen against a single wall, so the job is one run and everything depends on that one length. A counter that serves drinks in the evening and breakfast in the morning sees two different loads, and it is the leaning one that sizes the steel. Frames get opened up again when the support was left out.

This is commercial work rather than something the housing here generates. Domestically these streets ask for worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop installation. It runs through the same template, the same bench and the same fitters.

Access

Getting stone into an Angel kitchen

Upper Street is a red route with bus lanes, City Road and Pentonville Road are red routes on the southern edge, and the side streets are controlled Monday to Friday with some seven-day bays near the Green. Several surrounding streets sit inside camera-enforced traffic filters, so the route in for a van is not the route a satnav gives you.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

north London patch

Angel is covered on our north London run, along with the rest of Islington.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Angel

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Is Angel on your patch?

Yes. Angel is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are N1, EC1. It is worked on our north London run, along with the rest of Islington. The van is not staying on a main road for the day, so once the stone is off it goes and parks properly somewhere else. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. Packaging and offcuts go back the way the top came in. Everything that involves you happens in your kitchen, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

Why would bar tops in Angel be any different from anywhere else?

Listing and conservation conditions apply to a good number of these, which constrains what can be altered around the kitchen rather than what goes on top of the units. In a cellar the headroom fixes the counter height first and everything else works back from it, and the stair down is the tightest part of the route because stone carried downward is harder to control than stone carried up. A bar built as furniture is templated as furniture. A scribe has a working limit, and past twenty millimetres or so the back edge starts eating depth the run cannot spare. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. Noggins go into a stud wall before a bar is fixed to it.

What is the carry like in Angel?

A side gate hung to open outward against a fence post is narrower in use than it measures, and lifting the gate off its hinges is usually the quickest win on the route. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. Where the route is tight the bar gains a join behind a corbel. A red route means no stopping, and no stopping means exactly that, so the stone comes in from a side street or from a bay behind the property. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. One van, one bar, one visit.

Would you call Angel a bar tops area?

Not to any real extent, and it would be easy to imply it was. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop installation. It describes the kitchens on this patch, not the work that goes into them. Same quoting, same cutting, same fitting as anywhere else on the patch. A kitchen carved out of a larger room sits under whatever the original plan left behind, so the run frequently ends at a blocked doorway or a boxed-in service. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. Repeat detail, single survey, matched batch. Conversions put kitchens where the services could be made to reach rather than where they belong, so runs are short and interrupted. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. The brief changes, but the nose still has to be carried.

Where does the money go on an Angel worktop?

Both runs are in view at the same time, so the two pieces are taken off the same area of slab and the veining is set to run the same way on each side. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. Support follows the seating plan along the whole nose. Material is £110-£550 per square metre supply only, and templating, fabrication and fitting are quoted on their own lines.

What needs to be ready before you come to Angel?

Walls that bow along their length are the normal condition rather than the exception, and a straight-cut back edge will show a shadow gap at one end and touch at the other. Where the nose has to be carried past something fixed the support moves rather than the stone, since a corbel landing in the knee space is worse than no corbel at all. A sloping floor is a problem for the stools, not the top. Send the length you want, the number of stools, and photographs walking from the pavement through to the room, including the cellar stair if the bar is going down there. A street with houses in single occupation next to the same houses cut into flats produces two completely different jobs from the same elevation. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. The person leaning on it is the person it was drawn for.

What if a worktop will not physically fit through the building?

The lift, if there is one, is measured on the diagonal, because that is the dimension a long piece actually uses. Doorways, the newel post and the handrail usually take the room away, rather than the stairs themselves. What decides it is not the width of the stairwell but the length of piece that can be turned in it. Where the garden is level and the back door is wide the pieces get staged outside on trestles and brought in one at a time as the fitters are ready for them. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. A polished front edge is protected from the tail lift to the frame.

What is the difference between an upstand and a splashback?

What decides between them is usually the wall: what it is built of, how flat it is, and where the sockets ended up. A full-height piece shows a wall that is out more than an upstand does, over the extra height. Socket and switch positions have to be final before templating, because the openings are machined rather than chopped out on the wall. A basement kitchen has a flagged or concrete floor laid straight onto the ground, so it is solid, cold and rarely within ten millimetres of level. A bar in a house of this age is usually either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the cellar is the harder of the two because the headroom fixes the counter height before anybody else gets a say. What the room will take decides the stool count.

Is taking the old top off part of the job?

An old stone top is heavier coming out than the new one is going in, and leaves in sections. Old tops are screwed or glued from underneath, so the drawer boxes come out before the worktop does. On a replacement the old top comes off in the morning and the new stone is down and sealed the same day. Where the frontage is a clearway the unload happens away from the door and the carry gets longer, which is a crew and time question rather than a stone one. Where the clock is running the frame is levelled and the steel is in before the top ever leaves the tail lift. Where parking is tight the hardware walks in ahead of the stone.

What if the units in an Angel kitchen have moved since they went in?

Level is checked at the template, which is the point of measuring in the room rather than off a drawing. Units have to be fitted, fixed and level before templating, and it is better to hear that at the template than on the fitting day. Stone does not flex, so a run that rocks on its carcasses rocks just as badly once it is stone. A run can measure dead right at both ends and still belly out in the middle, which only appears once the template plots the intermediate points. Anything that puts a notch in a bar takes material out of the piece at the point people lean on it, so the notch and the support are drawn together or not at all. What the bar wraps around is templated, never assumed square.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

Every one of these is on our Google profile under the reviewer’s own name. Nothing here is written by us, and the link goes straight to the source.

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Karim is excellent, he did superb job with Templeting and fitting my kitchen, highly recommend

M Sg

Google review

I am really happy with the work! He fitted my kitchen granite worktop really nicely and got the job done on time, just as promised. He was friendly, professional, and made sure everything was done the way I wanted. Would definitely recommend Karam to anyone looking for a great job!

esther boadu

Google review · granite

Nice work from worktop worx. Highly recommended

Rasika Kumarage

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Angel, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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