Skip to content

Ealing · W5

Stone bar tops in Brentham Garden Suburb

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Brentham Garden Suburb kitchens

The buildings and streets around Brentham Garden Suburb

Edwardian Arts and Crafts cottagegarden suburb terrace1900s-1910s cooperative housing

Where the bar tops in Brentham Garden Suburb get complicated is rarely the stone itself, and much more often the room the stone has to go into. Small original kitchens in Arts and Crafts cottages with limited permitted development, so the work is making a compact 2.5m to 3.5m kitchen function properly. Honed finishes and simple square edges suit the houses. The survey is the part where guessing stops. Everything after it is worked from real measurements taken in your own Brentham Garden Suburb kitchen.

Party wall settlement pulls the floor down at one side of the room, so a long run reads level at one end and not at the other. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. People push against the front edge, so the front edge gets the steel.

A small room puts the sink, hob and tap cut-outs close together on one short length, and the bridge of stone left between them decides whether it can be cut in one piece. A bar in a house of this age is usually either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the cellar is the harder of the two because the headroom fixes the counter height before anybody else gets a say. The stone is the last element of the joinery, not the first.

What we are cutting for, here, is Edwardian Arts and Crafts cottage, garden suburb terrace and 1900s-1910s cooperative housing. None of them is harder than the others; they are awkward in different ways.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Ealing
Postcodes
W5
Covered on
our west London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Brentham Garden Suburb is its own job

Stone is heavy, unforgiving and cut to a millimetre, so what governs a job in Brentham Garden Suburb is everything around it. Conservation area with narrow lanes, greens and hedged frontages, few driveways, and controls on skips and scaffolding that need arranging well ahead. The conservation controls mean the kitchen stays exactly where it is, so this is a fitting and scribing problem rather than a design one. That is the sort of thing we come and look at in Brentham Garden Suburb before we quote, not after you have committed.

The work

What bar tops involves

The fitting workmanship carries the same five year guarantee as a kitchen worktop, and the support under the front edge is covered by it as much as the stone above is. The top is machined at the works with the front edge, the ends and the underside all profiled and polished, since every one of those faces is at eye level from a stool. You end up with a front edge that takes people leaning on it all evening without the top shifting, because the load was worked out before the stone was ordered.

The piece is open on the front, the ends and the underside, which is the reverse of a kitchen run that hides three of its four edges against something. A bonded apron on the front is mitred and clamped on the bench, which is how a slab comes to read as a heavy counter without weighing what one would. In a house of this age the bar generally stands in a through-lounge or a cellar, and neither floor is flat enough to set a frame down on without packing it. Every face somebody can see is finished.

Polished stone edge profile close up
Edge profilesSee the options

The money

What it costs in Brentham Garden Suburb

Material choice moves the figure less than the detail does, and on a bar the detail means the apron, the radius and whatever sits under the front edge. Short lengths nest well and waste little, so the material line is usually the kindest part of a galley quote. Thickness, finish and colour move a slab within the £110 to £550 supply band before anyone touches it, so that figure is settled by what you pick rather than by the room. You see what the projection costs before agreeing to it.

period detached houses and villas

What Brentham Garden Suburb asks for

Two flats with an identical layout can want entirely different things from the same run of worktop, which is why the quote follows the run rather than the address. Fixings that go into a party wall or anything structural are agreed before a hole is drilled, and on a bar there are usually several of them. Fixings into structure are agreed before they are drilled.

This is commercial work rather than something the housing here generates. Domestically these streets ask for worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop splashbacks & upstands. It runs through the same template, the same bench and the same fitters.

period detached houses and villas

The carry, and what it rules out

Deep gravel takes the wheels of a loaded trolley and holds them, so either boards go down or the pieces are carried. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. Two trips to the van, one for hardware and one for stone.

Access

Getting stone into a Brentham Garden Suburb kitchen

Conservation area with narrow lanes, greens and hedged frontages, few driveways, and controls on skips and scaffolding that need arranging well ahead.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

west London patch

Brentham Garden Suburb is covered on our west London run, along with the rest of Ealing.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Brentham Garden Suburb

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Which postcodes do you cover around Brentham Garden Suburb?

Yes. Brentham Garden Suburb is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are W5. It is worked on our west London run, along with the rest of Ealing. Block paving bedded on sand can rut under a fully loaded van, and that is said to the customer beforehand rather than explained afterwards. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. Trestles outside beat balancing a top on a half-built frame. We template in your kitchen and fit in your kitchen, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

Is there anything about Brentham Garden Suburb buildings that catches bar tops out?

There is no back addition on these, so the kitchen is the original rear room and the run is one wall long with a door at each end of it. A bar in one of these houses is either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the two behave differently. The frame is built to the room and the stone answers to the frame. Where a corner is a couple of degrees off, a mitre cut to a theoretical ninety degrees opens on the wall side and there is no closing it afterwards. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. A bar top will not correct a frame that is out of true.

What do you check about the route into a Brentham Garden Suburb property?

Where the van stands level with the front of the house a piece gets handled twice instead of five times, and stone breaks on handling rather than on the road. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. Piece length is capped by the turn, then the support is drawn to suit. Where the drive is shared, the half-hour the van spends in the way is agreed with the neighbour in advance rather than apologised for at the time. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. The offcut from a bar sink leaves in the van.

Does Brentham Garden Suburb actually ask for bar tops?

Not to any real extent, and it would be easy to imply it was. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop splashbacks & upstands. It describes the kitchens on this patch, not the work that goes into them. Same quoting, same cutting, same fitting as anywhere else on the patch. Where a family has been living around a building site for months, the finish date carries more weight than any other part of the specification. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. The steel is priced with the bar, not after it. An open-plan extension puts the worktop in the middle of the living space, so it is looked at from the sofa as well as worked on. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. Drinks left standing decide the material more than looks do.

Why do two Brentham Garden Suburb kitchens the same size price differently?

Where a run finishes hard against a wall the last few millimetres are scribed, and where it finishes in open floor it is cut square and polished, which is two different jobs on one length. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. The bar is set out from the seat and worked back to the units. Material sits between £110 and £550 per square metre supply only, and templating, fabrication and fitting are quoted line by line.

What has to be finished before you can template?

The stone carries the scribe because the wall cannot be persuaded, so back edges are cut oversize and eased in rather than dropped straight down. Where the nose has to be carried past something fixed the support moves rather than the stone, since a corbel landing in the knee space is worse than no corbel at all. Fixings go into timber that was put there for them. Send the length you want, the number of stools, and photographs walking from the pavement through to the room, including the cellar stair if the bar is going down there. Some doors in a building need a consent letter and some need nothing at all, so the first question is which arrangement applies here rather than which one is usual. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. Seating height is set to a person or to a standard, and stated.

Do you take the old worktop away?

Disposal means it goes in the van, not into the garden to wait for a collection. An old stone top is heavier coming out than the new one is going in, and leaves in sections. Old laminate is light and awkward rather than heavy, so it is usually the easier half of the day. A step up from the drive to the threshold turns the last two metres into a lift, and a lift is where two pairs of hands become the minimum. Where the clock is running the frame is levelled and the steel is in before the top ever leaves the tail lift. A suspension is booked for the fitting day, not the delivery hour.

Will I have to look after it? What does a Brentham Garden Suburb worktop need?

Marble is the one people underestimate. It is porous, like granite, and wants sealing. Bleach and limescale remover harm a polished finish rather than clean it, whichever material is on the units. Day to day all three want soap and water; abrasive creams and scouring pads are what dull a polished surface. That rear wall carries the back door and the only window, which leaves very little uninterrupted length for a sink run. The floor is suspended timber, so the frame is fixed back to a wall as well as bearing down on the boards, or the whole thing shifts when somebody leans on the nose. A cellar bar is set to the headroom first.

Can I have grooves instead of a separate drainer in Brentham Garden Suburb?

They are cut with a fall towards the bowl, which is why they cannot be added on site later. They read strongly across a dark stone and are nearly invisible on a pale one, so look before deciding. The grooves sit inside the depth of the top with stone left either side, so a shallow run limits them. Gas, waste and later wiring were boxed in against the wall long after the house was built, and that boxing is what the run has to clear. None of that stops a bar being fitted level, but it does mean the top is set to a datum of its own and packed off the frame rather than followed down to the floor. Stool height and knee room are settled on the drawing.

What if the units in a Brentham Garden Suburb kitchen have moved since they went in?

Units have to be fixed down as well as levelled. A loose carcass moves under stone. Small variation is taken up by packing under the top on the fitting day. A long top on units that were shimmed once and never checked is the commonest version of this, and it is cheap to fix beforehand. A room can be out of square in both directions at once, so the wall that leans is also the wall that runs downhill, and one scribe cannot answer both. Anything that puts a notch in a bar takes material out of the piece at the point people lean on it, so the notch and the support are drawn together or not at all. The knee space is measured before the bracket is specified.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

Every one of these is on our Google profile under the reviewer’s own name. Nothing here is written by us, and the link goes straight to the source.

Read all 26 on Google →
I used Karem’s services 5 years ago for purchasing and fitting the quartz worktop in my then brand new kitchen. The price was reasonable and the service reliable and spot on, no delays in fitting, misunderstanding or excuses. I recommended him to a friend, who also used his services and they were happy too! If I need to order new kitchen work top again, I would definitely use him again. Thanks Karem!

shoshencence

Google review · quartz

Karem did an excellent job on my kitchen. He was professional, reliable, and paid great attention to detail. The finish looks amazing and has completely transformed my kitchen. Thank you! Would highly recommend his work!

Catalina Radu

Google review

Excellent work and highly recommend. Very professional and did an outstanding job with my worktop. Karem responded very quickly and swiftly, top guy!

Faisal K

Google review

Next step

Stone bar tops in Brentham Garden Suburb, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

+44 7830 847489