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Stone bar tops in Temple Fortune

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Temple Fortune kitchens

The buildings and streets around Temple Fortune

Arts and Crafts style parade with flats above1920s-30s semipurpose-built mansion block

Stone bar top work in Temple Fortune tends to go wrong in the planning rather than in the fitting, and planning it properly means starting from the building. Flats above the distinctive shopping parades have small, awkwardly shaped kitchens set into the roof and gable spaces with sloping ceilings that rule out wall units above part of the run. The surrounding houses are comfortable interwar semis where the kitchen is knocked through to the dining room for a 3.6m run and a peninsula. You will see the drawing before anything is machined, and if it is wrong on paper it gets changed on paper.

The plaster is a thick float and set over brick that has blown in patches, so a wall sounds solid in one place and hollow a hand-span away. What carries a bar top here is rarely a kitchen carcass, so the framing underneath gets looked at before anything is measured across the top of it. Corbels are a decision about how the piece looks from a seat.

The larder had a cold shelf and an air brick straight through to the outside, and that brick is usually still open behind whatever now stands in front of it. A bar here usually appears at the open end of a knocked-through kitchen and dining room, where it is read from both sides and both sides have to be finished to the same standard. Piece length is capped by the way in and the support follows.

The kitchens we see here sit in Arts and Crafts style parade with flats above, 1920s-30s semi and purpose-built mansion block. The wall build-up is different in each, and the scribe follows the wall.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Barnet
Postcodes
NW11
Covered on
our north London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Temple Fortune is its own job

The reason we ask so much before quoting in Temple Fortune is that a worktop cannot be trimmed to fit a surprise. Flats over the parades are reached by narrow shared stairs from the rear yards, with no lift and a turn at each landing; Finchley Road frontage has loading restrictions and constant bus traffic. Sloping ceilings over part of the run mean the slab cannot be tilted upright at that end, so it has to enter the room already close to horizontal. Everything above is looked at on the free design visit, and none of it is charged for until the template.

The work

What bar tops involves

Material choice is part of it: quartz for most indoor bars, porcelain or sintered stone where citrus, wine and strong cleaning products land on the surface every day. On the day the frame is checked and packed, the support goes in, and the stone is set and sealed last, which is why a bar is booked as a day rather than as a delivery. You are left with every visible face finished to one standard, the underside of the front edge included, which is the face a seated person looks straight at.

Bar work is joinery with a stone surface on it, and the joinery is the half that decides whether the surface behaves itself. Fixings passing through a frame into a party wall or anything structural are agreed with whoever owns that wall before a hole is drilled. Garage conversions are common here and their floors fall away to the old door, so the frame is levelled before a tape goes across it. Every face somebody can see is finished.

Polished stone edge profile close up
Edge profilesSee the options

The money

What it costs in Temple Fortune

Material choice moves the figure less than the detail does, and on a bar the detail means the apron, the radius and whatever sits under the front edge. The return into the wall and the free end are two different details on one piece, and both are machined rather than cut square. Material is £110 to £550 per square metre supply only, with the batch and the slab size sitting behind that variation, and the workshop time quoted apart from it. Nothing about the support is folded into the stone rate.

period detached houses and villas

Temple Fortune in the housing figures

Locally almost nothing has gone up in the last fifteen years, which makes the carcass check the first question rather than the last. A seating projection drawn on a developer plan is not one anybody has costed steel for, and template is where the two meet. A leaning load is a sideways one too.

period detached houses and villas

The carry, and what it rules out

The goods lift has its own booking sheet, and a bay slot without a lift slot only gets the stone as far as the lobby. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. The bar top waits on the van until the frame is level.

period detached houses and villas

What Temple Fortune asks for

This is commercial work rather than something the housing here generates. Domestically these streets ask for worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop installation. It runs through the same template, the same bench and the same fitters.

Access

Getting stone into a Temple Fortune kitchen

Flats over the parades are reached by narrow shared stairs from the rear yards, with no lift and a turn at each landing; Finchley Road frontage has loading restrictions and constant bus traffic.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

north London patch

Temple Fortune is covered on our north London run, along with the rest of Barnet.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Temple Fortune

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Is Temple Fortune far enough out to be a problem for you?

Yes. Temple Fortune is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are NW11. It is worked on our north London run, along with the rest of Barnet. A bay shared across a parade of shops turns over all day, so the arrival time matters more than the length of the booking does. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. A licensed room sets the hours and the parking has to agree. We template in your kitchen and fit in your kitchen, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

What is different about bar tops in Temple Fortune?

Where the dividing wall has come out there is a steel over the opening and a nib of the old wall left at each end, and a run turning that corner has to clear both nibs. These bars nearly always land at the open end of a knocked-through kitchen and dining room, which means the piece is read from both sides and both sides get the same edge treatment rather than one being left as a cut face. A garage floor slopes and the frame takes that up. Where a run finishes into a reveal, the depth of that reveal is taken at worktop height and nowhere else. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. A notch in a bar top is drawn with its support beside it.

Is access a problem in Temple Fortune?

Stone goes up on edge, and it is the half-landing turn rather than the flight itself that sets the maximum piece. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. A bar top will not be flexed round a turn, however light it looks. Building management is often the real gate rather than the bay itself, since the barrier, the shutter and the lift each need someone with a fob. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. Nothing is rushed off a tail lift onto an unsupported nose.

Would you call Temple Fortune a bar tops area?

Not to any real extent, and it would be easy to imply it was. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop installation. It describes the kitchens on this patch, not the work that goes into them. Same quoting, same cutting, same fitting as anywhere else on the patch. Extension budgets are usually well spent by the time the worktop is ordered, which is where the choice between quartz and a thinner sintered stone actually gets made. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. A late bar is a separate visit and the quote says so. Rear and side-return extensions are where the islands appear, and an island is the piece that decides whether one slab does the kitchen or two. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. Nothing is assumed about a frame somebody else built.

What makes one Temple Fortune kitchen dearer than the next?

A peninsula is an island with one end tied to a run, which means the join between them has to be planned rather than allowed to happen. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. An overhang on two sides is two separate calculations. Stone is £110 to £550 per square metre supply only, and the templating, the fabrication and the fitting each carry their own line.

What holds a template up more often than anything else?

Sill height gets settled with the template on site, because it is one of the few dimensions nobody has measured before we arrive. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. Leaning is a sideways load and framing has to answer for it. Confirm the finished height you want and whether the bar is seen from both sides, and tell us who is building the frame and when it will be complete. An owner paying for this directly tends to want the reasoning as much as the number, so a quote that explains why a join sits where it does is worth more than a cheaper one that does not. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. A bar outlasts whoever specified it.

What if a worktop will not physically fit through the building?

Doorways, the newel post and the handrail usually take the room away, rather than the stairs themselves. An external stair, a side return or a rear garden counts as carry and is measured the same way. A join added to get stone into the room is a different thing from a join added because the slab ran out, and the quote says which is which. A walk-up with winders at every half-landing means the piece is rested and re-gripped on the way, so the crew size goes up before the piece size comes down. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. The nose is the corner that gets caught, so it travels padded.

Will I have to look after it? What does a Temple Fortune worktop need?

Marble is the one people underestimate. It is porous, like granite, and wants sealing. No maintenance visit is built into the job. Soap, water, and on the porous stones a seal. Quartz and sintered stone never need sealing: quartz is non-porous and sintered stone has effectively zero porosity. The windows were steel to begin with and have been swapped for plastic in openings lined out to suit, so the reveal is now deeper than the brickwork behind it. The side passage is usually wide enough for a full length to reach the room, so piece length is decided by the slab and by what the frame will carry rather than by the front door. Beer lines and a glasswasher change what goes under the top.

Is taking the old top off part of the job?

If you want the old top kept for a garage or a utility, say so and it stays on site. Old tops are screwed or glued from underneath, so the drawer boxes come out before the worktop does. Old laminate is light and awkward rather than heavy, so it is usually the easier half of the day. Time-limited bays are camera-enforced across a lot of managed estates, so the unload runs to the clock and the van moves off afterwards. Where the clock is running the frame is levelled and the steel is in before the top ever leaves the tail lift. Two trips to the van, one for hardware and one for stone.

Is the quote a fixed price or an estimate?

The quote is written from the template drawing. Before that it works from what you have described. Plumbing, gas and electrical work are not in the figure, because we do not do them. Taking the old tops away is a line rather than an assumption, so it comes off if you do not want it. A window board sitting below finished worktop height leaves two choices, drop the top under it or notch the stone around it, and both cost more than a straight run. Anything that puts a notch in a bar takes material out of the piece at the point people lean on it, so the notch and the support are drawn together or not at all. Nothing under the nose is allowed to be in the way.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

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I used Karem’s services 5 years ago for purchasing and fitting the quartz worktop in my then brand new kitchen. The price was reasonable and the service reliable and spot on, no delays in fitting, misunderstanding or excuses. I recommended him to a friend, who also used his services and they were happy too! If I need to order new kitchen work top again, I would definitely use him again. Thanks Karem!

shoshencence

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Karem did an excellent job on my kitchen. He was professional, reliable, and paid great attention to detail. The finish looks amazing and has completely transformed my kitchen. Thank you! Would highly recommend his work!

Catalina Radu

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Excellent work and highly recommend. Very professional and did an outstanding job with my worktop. Karem responded very quickly and swiftly, top guy!

Faisal K

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Temple Fortune, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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