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Stone bar tops in Old Ford

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Old Ford kitchens

The buildings and streets around Old Ford

Victorian terraceinterwar cottage estatecanal-side new-build

The questions that decide stone bar top work in Old Ford are dull ones about doorways, corners and what the floor is doing, and they are asked early for good reason. Almost every renovated house here has a rear extension running to the boundary, which turns the old kitchen and scullery into one room with a 3m to 3.5m run under a flat rooflight and a separate island. Un-extended houses still have the kitchen at the very back with a door straight into the garden. Ring us with the rough dimensions and we will tell you what is likely, then confirm it properly at the Old Ford survey.

The back addition is frequently a single skin of brick rendered on both faces, which takes a fixing badly and moves with the weather. The material question follows from what actually gets put down on it, which is citrus, ice and wet glasses rather than hot pans and chopping boards. The seating side is the side the piece is drawn from.

The rear room has a bay or a wide window onto the garden, so the sink length is short and the real working length is on the return. Original walls give nothing straight to work to, which is why a bar here is built as its own frame and scribed at the back rather than trusted to the plaster behind it. Beer lines and a glasswasher change what goes under the top.

The kitchens we see here sit in Victorian terrace, interwar cottage estate and canal-side new-build. Each of those puts the services somewhere else, and the cut-outs follow.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Tower Hamlets
Postcodes
E3
Covered on
our east London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Old Ford is its own job

We treat a kitchen in Old Ford as its own job, because that is what the survey keeps showing us it is. Streets on the park side are broken up by modal filters and planters, so the van has to approach from the correct end or it will be reversing a long way back out. Several canal-facing properties have no vehicle frontage at all and the only route in is a towpath walk with a bridge ramp. Rear extensions here are usually finished before the kitchen goes in, so the template date slips with the plasterer and the levels across a 6m room need checking properly. Both go on the drawing, and the drawing is what the workshop cuts to.

The work

What bar tops involves

A stone bar top covers the surface and what carries it: the top itself, the edge profile on every face that shows, and the steel or corbels holding the projection up. Seating positions are marked at the survey, so any break in a long counter can be placed over support and clear of where somebody will actually sit. You end up with one firm answerable for the whole piece, support included, so there is no argument available about whether a sagging front edge is the stone or the joinery.

Most bar tops we are asked to quote began life on a plan as a seating projection that somebody assumed the cabinets would carry. A bar sink, a drip tray or a socket through the surface is machined at the works with radiused internal corners, exactly as a kitchen cut-out would be. The hall and the turn at the stairs cap how long a single piece can be, which is why a long counter here arrives as two pieces with a planned break. One visit, and the bar is usable that evening.

Polished stone edge profile close up
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The money

What it costs in Old Ford

The seating count drives the length, the length drives the break, and a break placed clear of every stool is what the piece is really being priced for. An island is a yield question before it is a design one: it either comes out of the same slab as the perimeter or it needs a second. Material runs from £110 to £550 per square metre supply only, and the template, fabrication and fitting are quoted on their own lines. A bar is quoted as a bar, not as extra worktop.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

What Old Ford asks for

Where a family has been living around a building site for months, the finish date carries more weight than any other part of the specification. The support has to be specified to whoever is building the frame before it is boarded up, since steel let in afterwards means taking the front of the bar apart again. What gets leaned on gets specified for leaning.

This is commercial work rather than something the housing here generates. Domestically these streets ask for worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. It runs through the same template, the same bench and the same fitters.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

Old Ford in the housing figures

On these streets the twenties and thirties barely register, so the standard semi galley is not the shape we are fitting. Rooms of that vintage are small, so the bar replaces a table rather than joining one, and the stool count comes off the floor space. Measured when the room has finished changing.

Access

Getting stone into an Old Ford kitchen

Streets on the park side are broken up by modal filters and planters, so the van has to approach from the correct end or it will be reversing a long way back out. Several canal-facing properties have no vehicle frontage at all and the only route in is a towpath walk with a bridge ramp.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

east London patch

Old Ford is covered on our east London run, along with the rest of Tower Hamlets.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Old Ford

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Which postcodes do you cover around Old Ford?

Yes. Old Ford is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are E3. It is worked on our east London run, along with the rest of Tower Hamlets. With no scheme to work with there is nothing to book and nobody to ring, so the only levers left are an early arrival and a word with the neighbours. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. Fitting a bar top is slower than carrying one. Nothing needs visiting and nothing needs collecting: the template is in your kitchen and so is the fit.

What is different about bar tops in Old Ford?

The external wall on the passage side has never been rendered, so it is cold, solid and honest to fix into. A bar in one of these houses is either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the two behave differently. The break sits over support and clear of every seat. Casement handles and stays swing down into the space above the worktop, so the clearance that counts is the one measured with the window open. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. A column in the middle of a bar is a decision, not a surprise.

Is access a problem in Old Ford?

A front path with a gate and a turn or two adds handling before the door is even reached, and every handling movement is another chance to catch a corner. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. The corbels go in before the top does, and both use the same door. Unrestricted kerbside is straightforward as long as the space in front of the property is actually clear when the van arrives. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. The frame is checked before anything comes off the van.

Would you call Old Ford a bar tops area?

Not to any real extent, and it would be easy to imply it was. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. It describes the kitchens on this patch, not the work that goes into them. Same quoting, same cutting, same fitting as anywhere else on the patch. An open-plan extension puts the worktop in the middle of the living space, so it is looked at from the sofa as well as worked on. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. Batch work still gets its own template per room. Extension budgets are usually well spent by the time the worktop is ordered, which is where the choice between quartz and a thinner sintered stone actually gets made. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. A serving counter and a bar are one piece under two loads.

What makes one Old Ford kitchen dearer than the next?

It is the heaviest single piece in the kitchen, so the number of hands needed on the day and the route in are worked out from that piece rather than from the runs. Where the counter runs flush with the working surface instead of standing above it the whole thing becomes one plane, which looks better and doubles the unsupported span. A flush bar is one plane and twice the overhang problem. Material is £110-£550 per square metre supply only, and templating, fabrication and fitting are quoted on their own lines.

What holds a template up more often than anything else?

A low sill over the sink run is what decides between an upstand and stone dying into a window board, and there is often less clearance than an upstand is tall. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. The stone is cut to the obstruction as found. Send the length you want, the number of stools, and photographs walking from the pavement through to the room, including the cellar stair if the bar is going down there. The same building type can arrive as a careful one-off kitchen or as a fast turnaround, and the honest answer is that they are priced differently. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. A bar outlasts whoever specified it.

Do you cut drainer grooves on Old Ford kitchens?

The bowl position has to be settled before templating, since the grooves are set out from it. Grooves and an undermounted bowl are usually specified together, since the grooves are run to the bowl edge. Grooves are machined in the workshop at the same time as the bowl cut-out, because they cannot be done well in a kitchen. A picture rail, a deep skirting and a moulded architrave all sit in the way of anything that assumes flat wall from floor to ceiling. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. A bar top is fitted last and touched first.

What if a worktop will not physically fit through the building?

The alternative to a join is a shorter run, which is usually the wrong thing to trade away. A piece travels on edge, never flat, because on edge is how stone of that length carries its own weight. The lift, if there is one, is measured on the diagonal, because that is the dimension a long piece actually uses. A carpeted hall runs a trolley badly, so a heavy piece is carried rather than rolled from the threshold in. A top with a bonded apron on the front arrives deeper than a worktop and behaves like a beam, so there is no easing it round a turn at all. A bar top will not be flexed round a turn, however light it looks.

Is taking the old top off part of the job?

On a replacement the old top comes off in the morning and the new stone is down and sealed the same day. Disposal means it goes in the van, not into the garden to wait for a collection. The tap and waste have to be disconnected by a plumber before we start and reconnected once the stone is in. On a street with no restrictions the constraint is other residents rather than a warden, so it is worth putting a cone or a car out early. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. A red route buys minutes and a bar top needs hours.

What if the stone gets chipped on the way into an Old Ford kitchen?

A remake goes back through the same cutting and polishing, so it is a return visit rather than a patch. A remade piece is cut from the same slab run wherever the slab allows, because a replacement from another batch will not match across a join. A piece is never laid flat across a gap while it is moved, because that is how stone cracks unaided. The hall is the only way in and out for whoever lives there, so it is cleared and then kept clear for as long as pieces are moving. Where the bar is going into a cellar the pieces travel downward rather than up, and carrying stone down a flight gives a crew less control over it, not more. The nose is the corner that gets caught, so it travels padded.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

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Great service. Super quick and easy communication. I love my new worktop 🥹🥹

Sara Arghir

Google review

Professional, polite and friendly service. Very pleased with finished product.

costas andrews

Google review

I used Karem’s services 5 years ago for purchasing and fitting the quartz worktop in my then brand new kitchen. The price was reasonable and the service reliable and spot on, no delays in fitting, misunderstanding or excuses. I recommended him to a friend, who also used his services and they were happy too! If I need to order new kitchen work top again, I would definitely use him again. Thanks Karem!

shoshencence

Google review · quartz

Next step

Stone bar tops in Old Ford, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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