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Stone bar tops in Old Malden

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Old Malden kitchens

The buildings and streets around Old Malden

Victorian cottage1930s semi1930s detachedpostwar infill

Before you settle on a material, it is worth understanding how stone bar top work in Old Malden is shaped by the room it has to go into. Older cottages around the church with tiny kitchens under 2.4m of run, and interwar semis on the surrounding roads that mostly get a rear extension across the full width giving a 4m run with an island of 1.8m to 2.1m and bifolds onto the garden. You will get a firm figure for your Old Malden kitchen once it has been templated, and that figure does not move afterwards.

Crittall windows were swapped for plastic ones in openings that were made good rather than rebuilt, which leaves reveals that are neither straight nor equal. Every face of a bar is on show from a stool, so the front edge and the underside of the nose are profiled and polished rather than left as the saw finished them. A bar top is a structural piece with a polished face on it.

Where the original steel windows survive at the rear, the frame sits almost flush with the inside face and there is no reveal to lose a joint in. A garage conversion is the other common home for one, and a garage floor falls away towards the old door, so the frame is packed level before a tape goes across it. The riser gets notched around, not built away from.

On this patch the buildings are Victorian cottage, 1930s semi, 1930s detached and postwar infill. They fail in different places, which is why the survey looks at different things.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Kingston upon Thames
Postcodes
KT4
Covered on
our south west London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Old Malden is its own job

Anyone can cut a worktop to size, and what decides the day in Old Malden is whether the rest of it was thought through. The area drops towards the Hogsmill, so several roads are on a noticeable slope with sunken driveways; otherwise off-street parking is the norm and side passages are wide enough for a trolley. Sloping plots mean the extension floor and the original floor rarely match, so worktop heights get set from the units, never from the finished floor. It is the reason we template every room rather than working from a plan.

The work

What bar tops involves

It suits a home bar in a converted cellar or a lounge, a breakfast counter on the end of a run, and a working trade bar with a sink and a drip tray underneath. Seating positions are marked at the survey, so any break in a long counter can be placed over support and clear of where somebody will actually sit. You end up with one firm answerable for the whole piece, support included, so there is no argument available about whether a sagging front edge is the stone or the joinery.

Bar work is joinery with a stone surface on it, and the joinery is the half that decides whether the surface behaves itself. A sharp arris on a leaning edge chips, so the front is eased with a radius or a chamfer instead of being left as a square corner. Garage conversions are common here and their floors fall away to the old door, so the frame is levelled before a tape goes across it. The projection is engineered, not hoped for.

Worktop join finished flush against a wall
Corners and joinsSee the options

The money

What it costs in Old Malden

Two counters of the same length price very differently depending on how far the front edge reaches, because past a certain point the carcass stops carrying it and steel starts. Two facing runs mean two sets of edges and two scribes in a small span, which is why a compact galley rarely prices as cheaply as its area suggests. Two quotes can agree on a supply rate of £110 to £550 per square metre and still land a long way apart, because the cut-outs, the joins and the edge profile are priced after it. Edge work is counted by the face, and a bar has more of them.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

Old Malden in the housing figures

Around here a large share of the housing went up between the wars. Where the frame is site-built rather than a kitchen carcass, its plumb and its fixings are checked before the top is measured. A bar is quoted with its support, never without.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

The carry, and what it rules out

Where the drive falls away from the house the trolley wants to run, and where it climbs the same load has to be pushed the whole way up. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. A bar top left on a pavement is a bar top with a chipped nose.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

What Old Malden asks for

The building stock on this patch tells us nothing useful about this service, because this service is not driven by it. It is driven by worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation on the domestic side. The method does not change.

Access

Getting stone into an Old Malden kitchen

The area drops towards the Hogsmill, so several roads are on a noticeable slope with sunken driveways; otherwise off-street parking is the norm and side passages are wide enough for a trolley.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

south west London patch

Old Malden is covered on our south west London run, along with the rest of Kingston upon Thames.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Old Malden

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Are you set up to work in Old Malden, or is it a subcontractor?

Yes. Old Malden is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are KT4. It is worked on our south west London run, along with the rest of Kingston upon Thames. A visitor or a neighbour parked on the drive is a five-minute problem at eight in the morning and an hour-long one at eleven. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. What comes off the van first is whatever holds the top up. You never have to visit anything or collect anything: we template in your kitchen and fit in your kitchen.

What is different about bar tops in Old Malden?

The larder had a slate or terrazzo shelf on its cold wall, heavy enough that it usually got left in place when everything else went. These bars nearly always land at the open end of a knocked-through kitchen and dining room, which means the piece is read from both sides and both sides get the same edge treatment rather than one being left as a cut face. Two tiers where a single piece will not reach. Window boards and cills stand proud of the plaster, so the back edge of the top has to be plotted to where the units actually sit rather than to the wall. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. The stone is cut to the obstruction as found.

Is access a problem in Old Malden?

The side passage is the measurement that matters, because a piece has to be carried flat down it and then turned in at the back door, and the turn is always tighter than the passage. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. Nothing about a front edge survives being dragged. Where the front garden has been paved over completely the van stands close to the house, and the route in is still a standard front door. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. The van stands for the frame as well as the top.

Is Old Malden really a bar tops area?

Not really, and claiming otherwise would cost nothing and mean nothing. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. It reflects the local housing rather than any difference in the work. It is quoted, cut and fitted here the same way it is anywhere else on the patch. Extension budgets are usually well spent by the time the worktop is ordered, which is where the choice between quartz and a thinner sintered stone actually gets made. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. Batch work still gets its own template per room. Rear and side-return extensions are where the islands appear, and an island is the piece that decides whether one slab does the kitchen or two. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. A serving counter and a bar are one piece under two loads.

What makes one Old Malden kitchen dearer than the next?

Handles on opposing runs meet in the middle of the aisle, so a deep edge profile specified on both sides takes width out of the standing space twice over. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. Two heights means two edge profiles and a spine between them. Supply-only material is £110 to £550 per square metre, and templating, fabrication and fitting are quoted separately rather than rolled in.

What holds a template up more often than anything else?

Where a run finishes into a reveal, the depth of that reveal is taken at worktop height and nowhere else. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. What carries the overhang is fixed to structure, not to lining. Confirm the finished height you want and whether the bar is seen from both sides, and tell us who is building the frame and when it will be complete. The householder is normally on site at template, and that is the right time to settle sink position, tap centres and overhang rather than agree them by email. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. Repairability at the nose is a fair question to ask early.

What happens if a piece will not go up the stairs?

If a piece cannot be got in at all, we say so at the template rather than on the day. The alternative to a join is a shorter run, which is usually the wrong thing to trade away. Splitting a run costs a join, and that is the price of getting stone into the room at all. Rear access usually lets us fit longer pieces whole, so the join count ends up decided by the slab rather than by the building. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. The corbels go in before the top does, and both use the same door.

Do you do undermounted sinks in Old Malden?

Where the hob lands is set out against the units and the wall behind, not off the kitchen plan. If the sink or hob changes after the template, the drawing changes first and nothing is cut meanwhile. A tap under a window board still needs room for its handle to lift, which is checked at the template. Older houses put the boiler or the meter on one of the two walls, and whatever is boxed in around it sets the point where that run has to stop. The seating side is the part that decides the piece, because a stool at the open end puts a load on a corner that a wall would otherwise have been carrying. Clear length between the returns sets the stool count.

Is templating a separate visit from fitting?

The same firm templates and fits. Nobody else is brought in to install. The template is taken in your kitchen after the units are in and fixed, never before. A template on a normal kitchen takes two to three hours in the room. Ceilings are lath and plaster at the front and plasterboard in the extension, and the join between the two marks where the original back wall stood. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. People push against the front edge, so the front edge gets the steel.

Will you fit a worktop I have bought myself?

Order is what matters: a slab is templated before it is cut, so an uncut slab is straightforward and one already machined for another kitchen is not. Delivery to the workshop has to be arranged and dated, since nothing is nested until it is there. Remnants bought elsewhere are the awkward case, because the drawing is then made to fit the stone. A new extension slab is not automatically level, and that wants checking before templating rather than after the stone is cut. The support has to be specified to whoever is building the frame before it is boarded up, since steel let in afterwards means taking the front of the bar apart again. The steel is priced with the bar, not after it.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

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We installed new kitchen and got the worktop and splash back from them. Their professional work and commitment was wonderful. Quality of work compared to price was way too good. Thank you guys.

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I am really happy with my worktop. It is beautiful and the service provided was second to none. I totally recommend.

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We recently had a Calacatta Gold worktop installed by Worktop Worx and are really pleased with the result. It has completely transformed our kitchen, much brighter, modern, and high-end compared to our old wooden surface. The team were professional, efficient, and the finish is excellent with great attention to detail. The worktop looks amazing and is very practical for everyday use. Highly recommend Worktop Worx for anyone looking for quality quartz worktops.

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Old Malden, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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