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Stone bar tops in Ham

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Ham kitchens

The buildings and streets around Ham

Georgian house around the common1950s and 1960s Span estatepostwar Wates housingmodern infill

Where the bar tops in Ham get complicated is rarely the stone itself, and much more often the room the stone has to go into. The Span and Wates estates give a very particular job - modular 1950s and 1960s houses with a compact kitchen on a fixed grid, often opened to the dining area with a 2.7m run and a slim peninsula, and the original units replaced within the same footprint; the Georgian houses on the common are a different scale entirely with large rear kitchens. Neither case is harder than the other for us. Both start with somebody standing in the kitchen with a tape.

A stub wall divides the kitchen from the back lobby, and it rarely stayed where the original drawing put it. None of that stops a bar being fitted level, but it does mean the top is set to a datum of its own and packed off the frame rather than followed down to the floor. Everything under the nose is agreed before a slab is chosen.

A boiler in a cupboard on the kitchen wall is normal in this stock, and its position is fixed by its flue. Partitions are frequently lightweight, so anything fixed back to a wall gets noggins let into the framing before a bracket is offered up to it, and a fixing into plasterboard alone is not an option on a piece people push against. A trade bar and a home bar are different pieces of work.

The stock behind these kitchens runs to Georgian house around the common, 1950s and 1960s Span estate, postwar Wates housing and modern infill. Which of those you have decides most of what follows.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Richmond upon Thames
Postcodes
TW10
Covered on
our south west London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Ham is its own job

Stone is heavy, unforgiving and cut to a millimetre, so what governs a job in Ham is everything around it. Estate roads with communal parking courts set back from the houses so the carry is 20 to 30 metres, and pedestrian-only paths between blocks that a trolley handles but a van cannot follow. The estate houses have thin partition walls and lightweight carcasses, so weight matters - 20mm quartz or porcelain rather than 30mm granite. None of this needs to be a drama. It needs somebody to measure it properly and write down what they found.

The work

What bar tops involves

The fitting workmanship carries the same five year guarantee as a kitchen worktop, and the support under the front edge is covered by it as much as the stone above is. Cut-outs for a bar sink, a drip tray or a socket through the surface are machined before anything leaves the workshop, so nothing is cut into a finished counter in the room. You end up with one firm answerable for the whole piece, support included, so there is no argument available about whether a sagging front edge is the stone or the joinery.

A bar is drawn outward from the seat, because where somebody sits fixes the height, the knee room and how far the front edge has to reach. Where the counter has two levels the spine between them is built first, and the two tops are drawn as a pair so the front edges stay parallel down the length. A back door into the kitchen usually lets the piece come in whole, which keeps a break out of a short top that could not carry one. Drawn from the stool and worked back to the wall.

Undermounted sink cut-out in a quartz worktop
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The money

What it costs in Ham

A bar is quoted as joinery and stone together, so the frame, the support and the top each appear on the sheet instead of being folded into a rate for the surface. A peninsula has a finished end and often an overhang, so it carries edge work a wall-side run never does. If you are holding two quotes, the £110 to £550 supply rate is the part they will agree on. Compare the join count, the edge profile and what the fitting line covers. Frame, support and top, each priced as itself.

period detached houses and villas

Ham in the housing figures

In Ham, nearly all of the stock dates from the three decades after the war. Rooms of that vintage are small, so the bar replaces a table rather than joining one, and the stool count comes off the floor space. The seating side sets the piece.

period detached houses and villas

The shape of the run

The free end is what needs deciding early: square edge, mitred apron down the end, or a full waterfall to the floor, and a waterfall is cut in sequence off the same part of the slab. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. A bar on an end takes the corner load a wall used to take.

period detached houses and villas

What Ham asks for

Not a domestic job, so it is not ranked against the streets around it. Those streets generate worktop replacement, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. Same slabs, same saw, same installers.

Access

Getting stone into a Ham kitchen

Estate roads with communal parking courts set back from the houses so the carry is 20 to 30 metres, and pedestrian-only paths between blocks that a trolley handles but a van cannot follow.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

south west London patch

Ham is covered on our south west London run, along with the rest of Richmond upon Thames.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Ham

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Are you set up to work in Ham, or is it a subcontractor?

Yes. Ham is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are TW10. It is worked on our south west London run, along with the rest of Richmond upon Thames. Where the van can pull up level with the gate the pieces are handled the fewest times, which is what actually protects them. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. The offcut from a bar sink leaves in the van. Your part of it happens entirely at home, with nothing to travel to and nothing to bring back.

What do the kitchens in Ham do to bar tops?

Ceiling heights dropped after the war, so there is less wall between the worktop and the wall units than in anything older. A bar in this stock is nearly always a short breakfast counter on the end of a run, and the end is exactly the point where the load lands with the least underneath it. The back of a freestanding bar is finished like the front. Stud centres are almost never where the brackets would like to be, so fixing positions get set from the framing and the stone is designed to suit. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. Every obstruction under the top is a seating decision too.

Do you have trouble getting long pieces into Ham kitchens?

A height barrier on the car park entrance rules out a tail-lift van outright, and the stone then transfers to a trolley at the barrier itself. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. A bonded apron makes the piece deeper than the doorway expects. Unrestricted does not mean empty, and a street that is clear at seven is usually full by nine. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. A suspension is booked for the fitting day, not the delivery hour.

Is bar tops what Ham is known for?

Not particularly, and it would be easy to pretend otherwise. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop replacement, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. That is a point about the buildings round here, not about the job. The quoting, the cutting and the fitting are identical here to anywhere else we work. The junction between the original room and the extension is the point to watch, because the two floors rarely sit at the same height. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. One detail across several rooms keeps the fixings the same. Extension kitchens are usually specified long before they are buildable, so the run lengths on the drawing and the run lengths in the room are different numbers. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. The evening use is what the piece is sized for.

What decides the price of a worktop in Ham?

Peninsulas frequently land on a lightweight partition or on units that were never fixed down, and stone needs proper support under it before it goes on. Where the counter runs flush with the working surface instead of standing above it the whole thing becomes one plane, which looks better and doubles the unsupported span. Nothing sits over a join that somebody leans on. The stone is £110 to £550 per square metre supply only, and templating, fabrication and fitting are quoted separately.

What do I need to sort out first?

A partition that gives when you lean on it will give under someone sitting at an overhang, and a bonded mitre nearby is where that movement shows first. Where the nose has to be carried past something fixed the support moves rather than the stone, since a corbel landing in the knee space is worse than no corbel at all. The riser is boxed to a line the stone can follow. Tell us what the end of the run is built off, send the length and projection you want, and confirm whether there is rear access into the kitchen. Someone who expects to still be there in ten years asks different questions: how a honed finish marks, what a sealer does and does not do, and whether a chip by the sink can be repaired in place. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. The overhang is signed off by whoever pays for the steel.

What happens if a piece is damaged on the fitting day?

Most breakages happen on the carry, which is why the route is walked and measured before anything comes off the van. Door frames and the stair route are protected too, since most contact happens on the way in. Floors and units are protected before anything comes through the door. Concierge buildings want the goods entrance, a booked lift and proof of insurance, all of which is straightforward when it is asked for a week out. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. The frame is built in the room; only the top has to travel.

Which materials need sealing and which do not?

A seal is not waterproofing. It only buys time to wipe a spill up. Topping a seal up is a wipe-on job with a cloth. Quartz carries resin, so a hot pan wants a trivet, while granite and sintered stone will take one without complaint. Post-war terraces have a short straight hall to the kitchen, which is a good deal kinder than the houses they replaced. A bar here is nearly always a short breakfast counter on the end of a run, and the end is exactly where the load lands with least underneath it. Where the walls give nothing, the bar stands on its own.

How do you cut out for an undermounted sink?

A Belfast or butler sink has to be installed and at its final height before the template, because the stone is cut to sit on it. If the sink or hob changes after the template, the drawing changes first and nothing is cut meanwhile. Undermount bowls are cut and polished in the workshop and dry-fitted to the stone on the bench before anything is loaded. Because a peninsula is seen from both sides, the underside of any overhang gets the same edge treatment as the top, which is easy to leave out of a spec. The seating side is the part that decides the piece, because a stool at the open end puts a load on a corner that a wall would otherwise have been carrying. The overhang is drawn before the layout is signed off.

Do the template and the fit happen on the same visit?

Upstands and splashbacks are templated after the worktop is down and settled, so they are a separate visit. If the units run late the template moves, not the fit: the gap between them is fabrication. Between the template and the fit the slab is nested, cut, mitred and dry-assembled on the bench, which is work you never see and is most of the wait. A boiler hangs on the wall above the run in most of these, and its pipework drops exactly where a splashback wants to go. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. A bar top is a structural piece with a polished face on it.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

Every one of these is on our Google profile under the reviewer’s own name. Nothing here is written by us, and the link goes straight to the source.

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Perfect service,the best on this job

Kleant Istrefi

Google review

I recently had my kitchen worktop and splashback done by Karem from Worktop WorX and i am very pleased with the result. From the initial consultation and measurements to the final installation, the whole process was smooth and professional. The attention for details and the quality made the difference and everything was finished to a high standard. I definitely recommend Worktop WorX to anyone looking for reliable and high quality kitchen work

Alexandru Balint

Google review

Really impressed with the quality and finish of these worktops. Great range of materials, precise fabrication, and smooth communication throughout. The whole process was easy and the final result looks fantastic. Highly recommend!

Nastasia Drago

Google review

Next step

Stone bar tops in Ham, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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