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Stone bar tops in Petts Wood

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Petts Wood kitchens

The buildings and streets around Petts Wood

1930s mock-Tudor semi1930s detached1950s infillchalet bungalow

No two streets in Petts Wood throw up the same problem, and the bar tops we book there are priced off what is actually behind the units rather than off a floor plan. Very consistent stock from the inter-war estate: the original kitchen is a small rear room, and almost every job is a rear or side-return extension turning it into an L-shaped kitchen-diner with a peninsula. Because the houses repeat, the layouts repeat, typically a 3.6m rear run plus a 2.1m return. Work out none of it yourself. Tell us the address in Petts Wood and roughly what you are replacing, and we will take it from there.

These kitchens have usually been retiled twice and knocked through once, and both of those leave marks the worktop has to deal with. What carries a bar top here is rarely a kitchen carcass, so the framing underneath gets looked at before anything is measured across the top of it. People push against the front edge, so the front edge gets the steel.

Plaster in the older half is a sand and cement backing on brick while the newer half is board on dabs, so the same fixing bites in one wall and breaks through the other. The chimney breast that survived the knock-through often sets where the counter can start, and the piece is scribed to it rather than stopped short of it. A trade bar and a home bar are different pieces of work.

The building types here are 1930s mock-Tudor semi, 1930s detached, 1950s infill and chalet bungalow. The one you have sets the piece length before the kitchen does.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Bromley
Postcodes
BR5
Covered on
our south east London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Petts Wood is its own job

A quote for Petts Wood that ignores how the slab gets in is a quote that will change on the day. Front drives on most houses and a side passage on the semis, but the side passages are narrow and often have a gas meter box or bin store in them, so slabs usually go in through the front. The estate is under an Article 4 style design control on the frontages, so the constraint is scheduling around the builder finishing the extension rather than the fit itself. Far better to find it in Petts Wood with a tape measure in our hands than on the day the slab arrives.

The work

What bar tops involves

What is covered is the template, the machining, the support fixed into the frame and the fitting, with the frame itself either built by us as joinery or by whoever is already on site. On the day the frame is checked and packed, the support goes in, and the stone is set and sealed last, which is why a bar is booked as a day rather than as a delivery. You end up with one firm answerable for the whole piece, support included, so there is no argument available about whether a sagging front edge is the stone or the joinery.

The piece is open on the front, the ends and the underside, which is the reverse of a kitchen run that hides three of its four edges against something. Corbels are set out to the stool positions so that nobody has one arriving between their knees, and they are fixed to structure rather than to a lining board. Garage conversions are common here and their floors fall away to the old door, so the frame is levelled before a tape goes across it. The projection is engineered, not hoped for.

Undermounted sink cut-out in a quartz worktop
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The money

What it costs in Petts Wood

A bar is quoted as joinery and stone together, so the frame, the support and the top each appear on the sheet instead of being folded into a rate for the surface. The corner is either a join or a single cut piece, and which one it is changes both the price and how the run reads. For a rough sense of the material, £110 to £550 per square metre supply only is the honest span. Treat it as one line of a quote that will carry several more. A bar is quoted as a bar, not as extra worktop.

1930s and inter-war semis

Petts Wood in the housing figures

On these streets most homes are lived in by the people who own them. No two kitchens are set out alike. An owner keeping the room asks how a chipped nose is dressed in place, and that answer shapes the edge profile. The knee space is drawn before the bracket is.

1930s and inter-war semis

What Petts Wood asks for

Not a domestic job, so it is not ranked against the streets around it. Those streets generate worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. Same slabs, same saw, same installers.

1930s and inter-war semis

The shape of the run

An L can be mitred at the corner for a continuous look or butt-jointed over the gable, and the two are different money and different risk. The seating side is the part that decides the piece, because a stool at the open end puts a load on a corner that a wall would otherwise have been carrying. What the shape gives in length it takes back in support.

Access

Getting stone into a Petts Wood kitchen

Front drives on most houses and a side passage on the semis, but the side passages are narrow and often have a gas meter box or bin store in them, so slabs usually go in through the front.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

south east London patch

Petts Wood is covered on our south east London run, along with the rest of Bromley.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Petts Wood

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Do your own fitters come out to Petts Wood?

Yes. Petts Wood is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are BR5. It is worked on our south east London run, along with the rest of Bromley. Where a car has to come off the drive first, it is worth knowing whose car it is and whether the keys are in the house on the morning. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. The van stands for the frame as well as the top. We come to the kitchen to template and again to fit, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

Does the housing in Petts Wood change how bar tops works?

The drains run down the side alley to a gully and an inspection cover near the back door, and the sink waste has always gone out on that side of the house. These bars nearly always land at the open end of a knocked-through kitchen and dining room, which means the piece is read from both sides and both sides get the same edge treatment rather than one being left as a cut face. The back of a freestanding bar is finished like the front. A boxed soil stack or service riser in the corner of a run eats into the worktop depth and has to be scribed around rather than cut square. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. What the bar wraps around is templated, never assumed square.

How does the stone actually reach a kitchen in Petts Wood?

A side gate hung to open outward against a fence post is narrower in use than it measures, and lifting the gate off its hinges is usually the quickest win on the route. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. The corbels go in before the top does, and both use the same door. A gate post set narrower than the opening looks generous from the road and stops a wide piece a metre in. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. A bar fit is a day, not a drop.

Does Petts Wood actually ask for bar tops?

Not particularly, and it would be easy to pretend otherwise. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop templating, worktop installation and worktop design & quotation. That is a point about the buildings round here, not about the job. The quoting, the cutting and the fitting are identical here to anywhere else we work. An open-plan extension puts the worktop in the middle of the living space, so it is looked at from the sofa as well as worked on. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. A serving counter and a bar are one piece under two loads. Extension budgets are usually well spent by the time the worktop is ordered, which is where the choice between quartz and a thinner sintered stone actually gets made. Harder use and stronger cleaning products push the answer towards porcelain or sintered stone, because a resin-bound surface is the one that shows what has been left standing on it. The steel is priced with the bar, not after it.

What am I actually paying for, line by line?

Where the return runs into a wall that is out of square, the corner is templated as the angle it really is rather than as ninety degrees. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. The nose line is drawn first and everything works back from it. The supply-only figure for material runs £110 to £550 per square metre, and templating, fabrication and fitting are lines of their own.

Is there anything I have to finish before the template in Petts Wood?

Boxing is rarely the same depth at worktop height as it is at floor level, so measuring it low down is the usual reason a top will not sit back. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. The support plan is drawn at the same time as the cut-out. Confirm the finished height you want and whether the bar is seen from both sides, and tell us who is building the frame and when it will be complete. Owner-occupied kitchens are usually being done once, which is why the edge profile, the vein direction and where a join falls are worth the conversation. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. The specification answers to the use, not to the brochure.

What if the base units are out of level?

Packing takes up small variation. It is not there to hide something that belongs in the units. Small variation is taken up by packing under the top on the fitting day. Where a run meets an appliance, level decides whether that appliance door still clears the stone above it. Anything that has to stay accessible, a stopcock, a gas meter, a riser panel, is marked on the template so the stone is cut around it instead of over it. Where the nose has to be carried past something fixed the support moves rather than the stone, since a corbel landing in the knee space is worse than no corbel at all. A bar top will not correct a frame that is out of true.

Who decides where a join falls?

A join sits over a cabinet gable. It never spans a gap and never runs through a cut-out. What you get is a line rather than a step, because the pieces are levelled to each other first. Dark and heavily veined stone shows a join more than a pale even one, which is worth knowing before the slab is picked. A mitred corner is cut and dressed as a matched pair, and if either leg shifts by a millimetre on site the joint opens along its whole length rather than at one end. Where the counter runs flush with the working surface instead of standing above it the whole thing becomes one plane, which looks better and doubles the unsupported span. A radius on a walked-past corner is agreed at drawing stage.

Does a stone worktop need sealing?

Upkeep is settled when the slab is chosen, since it belongs to the material rather than the fabrication. Granite is porous to varying degrees, so it is sealed when we fit it and topped up over the life of the worktop. Topping a seal up is a wipe-on job with a cloth. A good number have a garage attached to the flank wall with a door through from the kitchen, which is both a way in and a stretch of wall the run cannot use. The side passage is usually wide enough for a full length to reach the room, so piece length is decided by the slab and by what the frame will carry rather than by the front door. Where the walls give nothing, the bar stands on its own.

Is a full-height splashback practical in a Petts Wood kitchen?

An upstand is a slim strip that follows the worktop up the wall; a full-height splashback runs from the worktop to the underside of the wall units. Stone up a wall is heavier than tile and bonded rather than hung, so the wall has to be sound. What decides between them is usually the wall: what it is built of, how flat it is, and where the sockets ended up. The gas meter box is fixed to the flank wall beside the alley and stands proud enough to matter when a long piece is coming past it on edge. A bar here usually appears at the open end of a knocked-through kitchen and dining room, where it is read from both sides and both sides have to be finished to the same standard. A long counter is a beam before it is a surface.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

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We had a fantastic experience with Worktop WorX from start to finish. The team was professional, friendly, and delivered excellent workmanship. We chose the beautiful Capri White worktop, and it has completely transformed our kitchen with its elegant, high-end look.

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Karem did a fantastic job at installing my antique bronze mirror for my coffee/drinks unit. He was really professional and his communication throughout was clear.

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We have a new kitchen. Our builder recommended Worktop Worx for our worktop. Now we have an amazing worktop very good price too. Really recommend. They were really good to us. 10/10

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Petts Wood, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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