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Stone bar tops in Thamesmead

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Thamesmead kitchens

The buildings and streets around Thamesmead

1960s-70s system-built concrete estatedeck-access maisonette1980s housing association terrace2010s regeneration block

Two kitchens a street apart in Thamesmead can turn stone bar top work into two quite different pieces of work, which is why nothing is priced from the doorstep. The original estate housing has small planned kitchens with concrete or dense blockwork walls and standard 600mm units in a single or double run; the later brick-built housing association terraces are slightly more generous but still galley. Islands are rare because the rooms were never sized for them. You will see the drawing before anything is machined, and if it is wrong on paper it gets changed on paper.

Where the kitchen has been opened into the living room the opening was trimmed with a steel, and a stub of the old wall was left standing at one end. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. Drinks stand on it for hours, which changes the material answer.

The gas enters at the back of the house and the pipe to the hob crosses the room at low level in a boxing along the skirting. The one advantage here is the fabric: dense blockwork holds a fixing properly, which makes a wall-carried front edge realistic where a stud partition would not allow it at all. A breakfast counter on an end is still an overhang problem.

The kitchens we see here sit in 1960s-70s system-built concrete estate, deck-access maisonette, 1980s housing association terrace and 2010s regeneration block. The wall build-up is different in each, and the scribe follows the wall.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Greenwich
Postcodes
SE28, SE2
Covered on
our south east London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Thamesmead is its own job

Nothing about fitting stone in Thamesmead is guesswork on our part, because guesswork with a machined slab is expensive. Raised pedestrian decks, podium levels and garage undercrofts mean the front door is often nowhere near where the van can park, and some blocks are reached only by a walkway or a small lift. Fixing into precast concrete needs the right anchors and serious dust control, nothing here takes a plasterboard fixing. Everything above is looked at on the free design visit, and none of it is charged for until the template.

The work

What bar tops involves

A stone bar top covers the surface and what carries it: the top itself, the edge profile on every face that shows, and the steel or corbels holding the projection up. Cut-outs for a bar sink, a drip tray or a socket through the surface are machined before anything leaves the workshop, so nothing is cut into a finished counter in the room. You are left with every visible face finished to one standard, the underside of the front edge included, which is the face a seated person looks straight at.

Fitting a bar runs in three stages. The frame is checked and packed level, the support for the projection goes in, and only then does any stone come off the van. Quartz is the usual choice for a home bar. Where citrus, wine and strong cleaning products are constant, porcelain and sintered stone hold their surface better. A boxed stack or riser usually decides the wall, and the top is notched round it with support set either side of the notch. Supported first, polished second, fitted last.

Polished stone edge profile close up
Edge profilesSee the options

The money

What it costs in Thamesmead

Two counters of the same length price very differently depending on how far the front edge reaches, because past a certain point the carcass stops carrying it and steel starts. The island is normally the largest single piece in the kitchen, which makes it the piece that sets the carry and sometimes the price. Supply is £110 to £550 per square metre, and it is the least interesting line on the quote, because the operations listed underneath it are what separate one job from another. The steel under the front edge is a line, not an assumption.

ex-local-authority flats and estates

What Thamesmead asks for

These kitchens tend to be compact and reasonably square, so the fixed template, fabrication and fitting lines are a larger share of the total than the stone is. Where the person choosing it is not the person who will lean on it, the seating height is set to a standard rather than to whoever happens to be standing in the room. A chipped front edge can be dressed in place.

This is commercial work rather than something the housing here generates. Domestically these streets ask for worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop splashbacks & upstands. It runs through the same template, the same bench and the same fitters.

ex-local-authority flats and estates

Thamesmead in the housing figures

Around here upper-band homes are rare in the stock. Every room starts from scratch as a result. A seating projection drawn on a developer plan is not one anybody has costed steel for, and template is where the two meet. Porcelain where the drinks are constant.

Access

Getting stone into a Thamesmead kitchen

Raised pedestrian decks, podium levels and garage undercrofts mean the front door is often nowhere near where the van can park, and some blocks are reached only by a walkway or a small lift.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

south east London patch

Thamesmead is covered on our south east London run, along with the rest of Greenwich.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Thamesmead

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Which postcodes do you cover around Thamesmead?

Yes. Thamesmead is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are SE28, SE2. It is worked on our south east London run, along with the rest of Greenwich. Where the drive is shared, the half-hour the van spends in the way is agreed with the neighbour in advance rather than apologised for at the time. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. Nothing is rushed off a tail lift onto an unsupported nose. We template in your kitchen and fit in your kitchen, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

Why would bar tops in Thamesmead be any different from anywhere else?

Door openings and the hall were set to a generous standard, so a long piece turns in from the front without being stood on end to do it. Rooms in this stock are compact, so a bar usually replaces a table rather than sitting alongside one, and it is drawn for two or three stools with enough floor left to get past them. A bar built as furniture is templated as furniture. Where a peninsula returns into a stud wall the load has to sit on the units, with the wall doing no more than steadying it. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. The bar is packed level off the frame, not off the floor.

What is the carry like in Thamesmead?

The lift has to be booked and blanketed before anything moves, and that booking needs to cover the old tops coming out as well as the new stone going in. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. The nose is the corner that gets caught, so it travels padded. A step up from the drive to the threshold turns the last two metres into a lift, and a lift is where two pairs of hands become the minimum. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. Two trips to the van, one for hardware and one for stone.

Would you call Thamesmead a bar tops area?

Not to any real extent, and it would be easy to imply it was. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop splashbacks & upstands. It describes the kitchens on this patch, not the work that goes into them. Same quoting, same cutting, same fitting as anywhere else on the patch. A managed portfolio tends to repeat one specification across every flat, which keeps later repairs and replacements simple to order. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. A bar goes in last, so it is measured last. Damage in a let flat is settled as a deposit deduction, so a surface that can be repaired in place is worth more than one that has to be replaced whole. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. What gets leaned on gets specified for leaning.

Where does the money go on a Thamesmead worktop?

On a heavily veined stone the island and the run behind it are nested off the same area of slab so the movement relates across the room. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. Nothing sits over a join that somebody leans on. Stone is £110 to £550 per square metre supply only, and the templating, the fabrication and the fitting each carry their own line.

What needs to be ready before you come to Thamesmead?

A lightweight stud partition will not carry a breakfast bar or a peninsula end, and stone finds that out faster than laminate ever did. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. A notch in a bar top is drawn with its support beside it. Send a photograph of every corner of the room so we can see the boxings, the length you want, and how many stools you expect to use. Access is arranged through a managing agent or a scheme office rather than with the household directly, so a date gets confirmed once in writing and moving it costs a fortnight. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. The support is specified for the next occupant as well.

Can I have grooves instead of a separate drainer in Thamesmead?

They are cut with a fall towards the bowl, which is why they cannot be added on site later. A groove set is its own item on the quote rather than something rolled in with the sink cut-out. The alternative stands on the surface, so the choice is losing worktop permanently or only while you are draining. Floors are a sand and cement screed over concrete, laid fast and worn since, so they are hard, solid and seldom flat. None of that stops a bar being fitted level, but it does mean the top is set to a datum of its own and packed off the frame rather than followed down to the floor. Corbels are a decision about how the piece looks from a seat.

Do you take the old worktop away?

Old tops are screwed or glued from underneath, so the drawer boxes come out before the worktop does. An old stone top is heavier coming out than the new one is going in, and leaves in sections. On a replacement the old top comes off in the morning and the new stone is down and sealed the same day. Where the van cannot turn on the plot it has to arrive already facing the right way, so the approach along the street is part of the plan. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. Trestles outside beat balancing a top on a half-built frame.

Will I have to look after it? What does a Thamesmead worktop need?

Marble is the one people underestimate. It is porous, like granite, and wants sealing. A seal is not waterproofing. It only buys time to wipe a spill up. Day to day all three want soap and water; abrasive creams and scouring pads are what dull a polished surface. An ex-council house is solidly built to a standard plan, with the kitchen at the rear and a back door next to it. Space is tight, so a bar here tends to replace a table rather than sit alongside one, and the piece is drawn for two or three stools rather than a row of them. What the room will take decides the stool count.

Upstands or a full-height splashback?

Ordered later from a different batch, the match is not reliable where the two pieces meet. An upstand is a slim strip that follows the worktop up the wall; a full-height splashback runs from the worktop to the underside of the wall units. Rear access through a garden or a shared path means long pieces can usually come in whole from the back. Dense blockwork holds a fixing properly, which is the one thing that makes a wall-supported nose realistic in this stock. Wide doors make piece length a choice rather than a limit.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

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Excellent work and highly recommend. Very professional and did an outstanding job with my worktop. Karem responded very quickly and swiftly, top guy!

Faisal K

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Perfect service,the best on this job

Kleant Istrefi

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I recently had my kitchen worktop and splashback done by Karem from Worktop WorX and i am very pleased with the result. From the initial consultation and measurements to the final installation, the whole process was smooth and professional. The attention for details and the quality made the difference and everything was finished to a high standard. I definitely recommend Worktop WorX to anyone looking for reliable and high quality kitchen work

Alexandru Balint

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Thamesmead, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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