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Haringey · N10 N2

Stone bar tops in Fortis Green

A bar top takes weight on its front edge all evening, so the overhang and what carries it matter more than the slab does.

  • 5.0from 26 Google reviews
  • 25-year material · 5-year workmanship
  • Fitted 5-10 working days from template

Fortis Green kitchens

The buildings and streets around Fortis Green

Victorian cottageEdwardian semi1920s Coldfall estate house

The bar tops we are called out to in Fortis Green tend to arrive with a history, and reading that history is half of getting the measurements right. Mix of small Victorian cottages with 2.4m kitchens and interwar estate houses where the standard job is a modest rear extension producing an L-shape with a breakfast bar rather than a full island. Family kitchen-diners rather than showpieces. If your kitchen is a bit of both, that is common enough and it changes nothing about how we go about it.

A cast iron soil stack runs down the outside of the rear wall, so moving the sink means a fresh penetration through solid brick. A bar top put into a room like that is an overhang question first, because the nose has to carry people leaning on it long after the slab has stopped being interesting. Corbels are a decision about how the piece looks from a seat.

A bay-fronted terrace has a long hall running past the stairs to the kitchen, so the hall turn caps the piece length before the run length does. A bar in a house of this age is usually either the end of a through-lounge or a cellar conversion, and the cellar is the harder of the two because the headroom fixes the counter height before anybody else gets a say. A trade bar and a home bar are different pieces of work.

Around here the stock is Victorian cottage, Edwardian semi and 1920s Coldfall estate house. They were built to different tolerances, and the stone has to absorb that.

True everywhere

Stone bar tops, in short

  • Anything past about 300mm of unsupported overhang gets steel or a corbel underneath.
  • The front edge is the one people touch, so it is profiled and polished on all exposed faces.
  • Quartz is the usual choice indoors; porcelain and sintered stone where drinks and citrus are constant.
  • A bar top is fitted level to itself, not to the floor, because floors in older buildings rarely are.
Borough
Haringey
Postcodes
N10, N2
Covered on
our north London run
Fitted
5–10 working days from template

The place

Why Fortis Green is its own job

Knowing Fortis Green means knowing what to look at on the survey, and what to allow for when the templates are cut. Fortis Green road itself is narrow with parking both sides and a constant flow of buses, so unloading is a two-minute job then move the van. The estate streets are flatter and easier than the rest of N10. The interwar estate houses have shallow 550mm base units in places - check the depth before ordering, a standard 620mm top leaves a bigger overhang than the client expects. Once the template is signed off the price is fixed. It does not move because the job turned out fiddly.

The work

What bar tops involves

It suits a home bar in a converted cellar or a lounge, a breakfast counter on the end of a run, and a working trade bar with a sink and a drip tray underneath. On the day the frame is checked and packed, the support goes in, and the stone is set and sealed last, which is why a bar is booked as a day rather than as a delivery. You end up with a surface chosen for what gets put down on it, so a wet glass standing all evening and a slice of lemon are not the things that spoil it.

The piece is open on the front, the ends and the underside, which is the reverse of a kitchen run that hides three of its four edges against something. Quartz is the usual choice for a home bar. Where citrus, wine and strong cleaning products are constant, porcelain and sintered stone hold their surface better. The hall and the turn at the stairs cap how long a single piece can be, which is why a long counter here arrives as two pieces with a planned break. Frame checked, steel in, stone down.

Worktop join finished flush against a wall
Corners and joinsSee the options

The money

What it costs in Fortis Green

Two counters of the same length price very differently depending on how far the front edge reaches, because past a certain point the carcass stops carrying it and steel starts. An L has a return, and a return rarely nests neatly on a slab, so the yield question arrives earlier than it does on a straight run. The catalogue starts at £110 per square metre at the plainest end and reaches £550 at the top, supply only, with the same fabrication work sitting behind either choice. You see what the projection costs before agreeing to it.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

The shape of the run

An L can be mitred at the corner for a continuous look or butt-jointed over the gable, and the two are different money and different risk. Where the counter runs flush with the working surface instead of standing above it the whole thing becomes one plane, which looks better and doubles the unsupported span. Where the two levels meet is a detail, not an afterthought.

Victorian and Edwardian terraces

What Fortis Green asks for

Rear and side-return extensions are where the islands appear, and an island is the piece that decides whether one slab does the kitchen or two. Harder use and stronger cleaning products push the answer towards porcelain or sintered stone, because a resin-bound surface is the one that shows what has been left standing on it. Nothing is assumed about a frame somebody else built.

The building stock on this patch tells us nothing useful about this service, because this service is not driven by it. It is driven by worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop installation on the domestic side. The method does not change.

Access

Getting stone into a Fortis Green kitchen

Fortis Green road itself is narrow with parking both sides and a constant flow of buses, so unloading is a two-minute job then move the van. The estate streets are flatter and easier than the rest of N10.

Tell us what the approach looks like when you book the template and it gets built into the day rather than discovered on it. Where the route is genuinely tight, it changes how the pieces are cut, which is a fabrication decision rather than a delivery one.

5–10 working days

From template to fitted, working days from template. The same on this patch as every other.

north London patch

Fortis Green is covered on our north London run, along with the rest of Haringey.

We come to you

Templated in your kitchen, cut in our workshop, fitted by our own installers.

Access told straight

If the route forces an extra join, you hear that at quote stage, not on the day.

Questions

Questions we get asked in Fortis Green

If yours is not here, ring and ask. You get a straight answer rather than a call-back from a salesperson.

Do you cover Fortis Green?

Yes. Fortis Green is on the patch, and the postcodes we work here are N10, N2. It is worked on our north London run, along with the rest of Haringey. With no scheme to work with there is nothing to book and nobody to ring, so the only levers left are an early arrival and a word with the neighbours. A bar fit runs longer than a worktop run, because the frame, the support and the stone are three stages and only the last of them is quick. Nothing is rushed off a tail lift onto an unsupported nose. The template happens in your kitchen and so does the fit, so there is nothing to visit and nothing to collect.

Is there anything about Fortis Green buildings that catches bar tops out?

The rear wall is usually a single brick thick and has been rendered, patched and re-rendered, so it bows in and out along the length of the run. In a cellar the headroom fixes the counter height first and everything else works back from it, and the stair down is the tightest part of the route because stone carried downward is harder to control than stone carried up. The back of a freestanding bar is finished like the front. Walls that bow along their length are the normal condition rather than the exception, and a straight-cut back edge will show a shadow gap at one end and touch at the other. On a bar that counts twice over, because the same obstruction has to be cleared by the stone above it and by the knees of whoever is sitting at it. A bar pushed sideways was fixed to plasterboard.

What do you check about the route into a Fortis Green property?

A hall radiator or a coat hook at shoulder height takes a hundred millimetres off the usable width, and a hundred millimetres is often the entire margin. That matters more on a bar than on a run, because a join forced by the way in cannot be allowed to land in the unsupported part of the nose. Suction pads go on the polished face, never on the nose. Unrestricted kerbside is straightforward as long as the space in front of the property is actually clear when the van arrives. That has to cover more than the unload, since the corbels, the flat bar and the fixings all come off the van well before the top does. Two trips to the van, one for hardware and one for stone.

Do you get much bar tops work in Fortis Green?

Not really, and claiming otherwise would cost nothing and mean nothing. What the research on this patch actually lists is worktop replacement, worktop templating and worktop installation. It reflects the local housing rather than any difference in the work. It is quoted, cut and fitted here the same way it is anywhere else on the patch. A new extension slab is not automatically level, and that wants checking before templating rather than after the stone is cut. A bar is nearly always the last thing added to a project, so it is templated on a visit of its own once the joinery around it has stopped moving. The overhang is checked against the frame that exists. The junction between the original room and the extension is the point to watch, because the two floors rarely sit at the same height. Where the same detail is repeating across several rooms the support gets standardised once and then cut to length, which is cheaper than drawing it each time. A bar in constant use is a maintenance decision as well.

Why do two Fortis Green kitchens the same size price differently?

Where the return runs into a wall that is out of square, the corner is templated as the angle it really is rather than as ninety degrees. A bar laid over that is a second level rather than a wider one, so it wants a spine underneath it and a settled detail where the two heights meet. Stools need floor as well as knee room, and both are drawn. Material alone is £110 to £550 per square metre, and templating, fabrication and fitting are never folded into that figure.

What has to be finished before you can template?

A run can measure dead right at both ends and still belly out in the middle, which only appears once the template plots the intermediate points. A bar top is levelled to itself rather than to what it stands on, so the packing goes into the frame and the stools take up whatever the floor is doing. Every obstruction under the top is a seating decision too. Send the length you want, the number of stools, and photographs walking from the pavement through to the room, including the cellar stair if the bar is going down there. Whoever manages the block controls the lift booking, the bin store and the visitor parking, and none of that sits in the gift of the household whose kitchen it is. A home bar is discretionary work, so the edge profile, the corbel detail and the radius on the nose are worth settling properly rather than defaulting to whatever is quickest. What stays with the building is built to stay.

Do you cut drainer grooves on Fortis Green kitchens?

A groove set needs a clear stretch of worktop beside the bowl, so it competes with the run for length instead of being free surface. Grooves are machined into the surface rather than applied to it, so there is nothing to come loose later. Machining is permanent. If a later kitchen moves the sink, the grooves stay where they were cut. Injected damp courses and re-rendered lower walls leave the bottom metre standing proud of everything above it. None of that stops a bar being fitted level, but it does mean the top is set to a datum of its own and packed off the frame rather than followed down to the floor. A home bar is joinery first and stone second.

Is taking the old top off part of the job?

If you want the old top kept for a garage or a utility, say so and it stays on site. On a replacement the old top comes off in the morning and the new stone is down and sealed the same day. The template can be taken with the old top still down, which is why one visit covers both. On a street with no restrictions the constraint is other residents rather than a warden, so it is worth putting a cone or a car out early. A trade bar is fitted around opening times, so the window the van has and the window the room has are rarely the same window. Trestles outside beat balancing a top on a half-built frame.

What if a worktop will not physically fit through the building?

If a piece cannot be got in at all, we say so at the template rather than on the day. The alternative to a join is a shorter run, which is usually the wrong thing to trade away. Splitting a run costs a join, and that is the price of getting stone into the room at all. Where the hall runs straight through to the back the piece can be walked in flat, and it is only the two door frames that have to be cleared. The steel and the corbels travel that same route and go in first, so a bar is three separate carries into one room rather than a single delivery. The route is measured to the deepest part of the piece.

What if the stone gets chipped on the way into a Fortis Green kitchen?

Floors and units are protected before anything comes through the door. Door frames and the stair route are protected too, since most contact happens on the way in. Stone cannot be filled and made good the way laminate can, so a damaged piece is remade rather than patched. Turning a heavy piece on edge indoors needs floor space at both ends of the turn, so the hall is cleared of furniture before anything comes off the van. A top with a bonded apron on the front arrives deeper than a worktop and behaves like a beam, so there is no easing it round a turn at all. Stools and back shelving come in after the stone is down.

Reviews

5.0 from 26 Google reviews

Every one of these is on our Google profile under the reviewer’s own name. Nothing here is written by us, and the link goes straight to the source.

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We recently had the Arctic Starburst worktop installed by Worktop WorX and it looks amazing. The subtle sparkle really catches the light and gives the kitchen a clean, modern feel. The Arctic Starburst surface feels high quality, durable, and is easy to keep clean. The finish and installation from Worktop WorX were spot on. Really happy with the result and would definitely recommend both Arctic Starburst and Worktop WorX to anyone upgrading their kitchen.

Han Lee

Google review · Arctic Starburst

Great work, super helpful team. I'd definitely recommend!

Andreea Tanase

Google review

Great experience from this company, I am happy with the materials, fitting and the team.

Rrahim Brati

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Next step

Stone bar tops in Fortis Green, priced properly

Plans, a sketch or photographs with rough run lengths is enough to start. You get an itemised written quote and the template dates we can offer on this patch.

25-year material warranty and a 5-year workmanship guarantee, both stated on your quote.

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